hey Don.i've been doing some looking bout the wiring myself for a while now and i'm ready to pull the trigger. from what i've seen the painless isn't all it's cracked up to be.the tech support,the manual(lack there of with product)and the price leave quite abit to be desired.i'm going with a company called http://www.ezwiring.com/wiring_harness.html i've been reading some good things about the company and how well layed out the manual is thats included and the well staffed tech support and the price looks very fair.it also looks similar to the painless one.figured i'd let you know.