delrin bushings on control arms?

melloelky

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this control arm that people are selling to replace rod ends&bushings,do you guys think they are worthy of a street car for daily use or should i stick to my ssm uppers?they offer all sorts of degrees of rotation,so the rear end may not be in bind with these?they are good on paper compared to what i'm running now,but i'm intrested to hear what you big hitters on this board have to say,you've always steered me in the right direction before.its rather confusing because i've read before that Spherical Rear Upper Control Arm Bearings aren't good in the rear end housing for street use,these look similar. ](*,)does the fact that vic edelbrock offers a version with these bushings mean anything?their stuff strikes me as street proned.
 

James Bond

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i think your talking about this type of joint. rod ends have endless amounts of emperical test data to design around. who knows if these have ever gone through any proof load testing. but i do like the design.



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your right i'm kinda stuck.i've read that the rod ends are no go on the street,this looks like a bushing version of a rod end but not a rod end.
 

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The Global West version of those are true aircraft grade spherical bearings with grease fittings. They're guaranteed for 100k miles. They're not the cheapest, but IMO they're the best.

http://www.globalwest.net/1978-88_Chevelle,_Grand_National,_Cutlass,_Century,_rear_tubular_control_arms..htm


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James Bond

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LS6 Tommy said:
The Global West version of those are true aircraft grade spherical bearings with grease fittings. They're guaranteed for 100k miles. They're not the cheapest, but IMO they're the best.

http://www.globalwest.net/1978-88_Chevelle,_Grand_National,_Cutlass,_Century,_rear_tubular_control_arms..htm


Tommy

this is more like a rod end. its even specified "While standard rubber bushings should be used for street and handling applications." in the description. i think melloelky is looking for some vibration isolation.

also whats the reason for using this over a rod end??
 

melloelky

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James Bond said:
LS6 Tommy said:
The Global West version of those are true aircraft grade spherical bearings with grease fittings. They're guaranteed for 100k miles. They're not the cheapest, but IMO they're the best.

http://www.globalwest.net/1978-88_Chevelle,_Grand_National,_Cutlass,_Century,_rear_tubular_control_arms..htm


Tommy

this is more like a rod end. its even specified "While standard rubber bushings should be used for street and handling applications." in the description. i think melloelky is looking for some vibration isolation.

also whats the reason for using this over a rod end??
he's right,i'm looking for a good set up for my street car,the upper ssm i'm running now is equiped with a derlin bushing and offers no side to side movement.i'm don't want to removed the poly bushings in the rearend because of where i'm at in the project.i saw those "roto joints"and wondered how it was really diffrent than a rod end.they appear to be a solution but i'm concerned about the longjeviety of it all.i read on trz site that the Spherical Rear Upper Control Arm Bearings aren't good for the rearend housing itself.the global ones that go in the rearend looks similar also! ](*,) #-o :shock: this is the delemia.
 

James Bond

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i've had ssm uppers and they really bind pretty bad. having bushings in the rear is the only part that will save you. why not just get a solid poly upper? also if you have poly on the rear and a rod end on the body, the rod end would live a long time. unless you drive it in bad weather.
 

melloelky

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James Bond said:
i've had ssm uppers and they really bind pretty bad. having bushings in the rear is the only part that will save you. why not just get a solid poly upper? also if you have poly on the rear and a rod end on the body, the rod end would live a long time. unless you drive it in bad weather.
really? :?: i was under the impression that i have too much poly in the back,i've got it in the lowers,i've got it in the rearend housing,i'm thinking about changing the uppers to make some of this work-i've read that rod ends will take a toll on the other parts and deliver a harsher ride for myself&the car.
 

UMI Sales

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James Bond said:
i think your talking about this type of joint. rod ends have endless amounts of emperical test data to design around. who knows if these have ever gone through any proof load testing. but i do like the design.



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Hello
Thanks for posting our pic to give him a better idea how its designed to work! If you are going to be doing a lot of racing I would suggest going with a rod end. If you are looking for a great ride quality and maintain the articulation of a rod end then the roto joints are the way to go. If you have any other questions feel free to ask and I will be more than glad to help.
Thanks
Brad :D
 

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