How to improve reaction time

k9

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May 22, 2003
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I hear you guys talk about practice trees. I am wondering how do those help you compared to driving your own car. I leave on a transbrake and it seems that my button is slow or something. I left on the last yellow and still only cut a .012 light when i thought it should have redlit.By the way that is the best light I have cut.I never redlight because my reaction time is so slow. Help me!
 

Jordan81

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Feb 10, 2004
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what class are you running? iff your allowed a delay box use of of them and leave on the top yellow and adjust it from there. also, on our super gas car we made a mount that the button sits in and goes down just enough to hold the car, so when its lifted it only has to travel the minimum amount before its releases.

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k9

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May 22, 2003
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I want to run the 10.0 class/no box but it seems that my transbrake button is slow. I have it relayed with a micro switch for the nitrous that I dont use and I have heard the relay will slow the button down.
 

Goob

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Jun 6, 2003
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Finding the best combination of switch and method of releasing it does take quite a bit of practice and research, with accurate ways of measuring the results.

Your total reaction time is the combination of the DRT (driver reaction time) and VRT (vehicle reaction time or rollout)

I used the in car reaction tester in my Mega-200 delay box to test buttons and hand action to achieve the most reliable, consistent DRT, then adjusted the car from there.

A practice tree can be used the same way.

I have some exercises I could detail for you if you are interested.

Here is an old post where I covered most of it....
Bad practice is worse than no practice.

You could always take one of the educated or theoretical guesses as to what your vehicle's rollout time would be, but what if that figure is wrong?
Bad practice.

Here is the most effective way I have found to get started with your practice tree.

Set it on delay box mode, with an even 1 second of delay, and ZERO rollout, practice hitting the top bulb, and using your button in whatever way is most comfortable and repeatable for you, or in the case that you already are using a button, as close to as it is in your car as possible.
You will be red every time, most folks will fall into a range of .170 to .220

Hit the top bulb until you have found a steady, consistent Driver Reaction Time......
I know it sucks coming up red every time, but bear with it......

Now say after some practice you arrive at the conclusion that your DRT is about .200, and you can fire up that practice tree anytime, and hit it right at .200 Most folks will have a natural variation of .005 to .010 plus or minus of the mean average DRT.

Now take the delay out of the box, still zero rollout, and hit the bottom bulb until your bottom bulb DRT is the same as your top bulb DRT.

At this point, you will have enough training for your eyes, because that is all we are doing is training your eye/brain reaction, your first handfull of time slips will reveal your car's true rollout time.

You will know whether or not you hit the bulb correctly every pass.
If you missed it, don't use that R/T for your rollout, only use the ones where you felt right, subtract the true on track reaction time from your known DRT, and you have your true rollout.

If you repeat .550's over and over, and your known DRT is .200 then your vehicle's rollout time is .350

This method works regardless of whether you are a top bulber, bottom bulber, feets or buttons, yes, different actions will get different times, but your eye/brain is trained well enough to know whether you hit the bulb, or if something else varied.

I know for instance, that if I want to be exactly .020 slower, I jerk my entire hand off of the button straight back toward my chest, as opposed to what I found was my most consistent action, which is rolling my wrist 90 degrees, with my thumb extended and stiff laying on the button.
I have about a .007 plus or minus variation that I can't control, but set myself up for an .008 to .012 R/T, so that if I "miss it" fast, I'm .501 and if I miss it slow, I'm no worse than .519

The biggest benefit to bottom bulb feetsbraker types is that when you need to adjust your R/T at the track, you will know exactly what that 5 lbs of air in the tires does to your rollout, or what that one click in the front shocks is worth on the R/T, without guessing and chasing your tail all day long.

I can hit any tree, at any track twice and know exactly what adjustments to make to the box or the car to achieve the R/T's I want.

You'll still miss a bulb every once in a while, every human will, but at least you won't be driving down the track, or reading your time slip and wondering "What happened?"
 

k9

Dragway Regular
May 22, 2003
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Thanks for the tips goob!
 

80montecarlo

Dragway Regular
Apr 24, 2008
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cloverdale b.c. canada
I have used one and they work good on a car with the delay switches ie biondo terminator button. If you know the accurate roll out of your car then you can adjust the system to your car and away you go and they work great. On my car with just a button on the knob they work like $&*#.
 

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