well as my previous post these things are driving me nuts but i think i isolated the problem i have been looking at the schematic in the tech section so far i have swapped a turn signal switch,replaced the plastic piece with the metal ring in the column ,replaced the relay there is 3 wires in back of relay orange, black ,and green the orange has pwer the black has pwer and the green has pwer when pressing horn pad when i test light the plugs for horns no power i removed horns and power/grounded them they work ok so my quest is where does the green wire from the relay go to i am guessing the fuse box then continues on the engine harness half of fuse box if i am correct then i think my issue is the fuse box but just wanted to see if my thinking on the green wire is correct thanks for the help like i said its driving my nuts but need for inspection