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determining which transmission my bud has

Post by SEVNT 9 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:05 am

he has an 81 z28 Camaro that came factory equipped with a 350 engine per vin (not sure if engine in it is the factory 350 or not) but it has a 4 speed stick, seller told him it had a muncie in it, but I'd like to be sure... clutch is starting to slip and we're trying to get some prices together for a clutch kit and what have you.

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The car currently has a ram rod shifter in it but it's annoying, and difficult for my bud to operate the trigger (has nerve damage in his hand and can't operate the trigger to bring it back into first) the seller also provided him with another Hurst regular H-pattern style shifter with the 3 linkage/arms that's bent rear towards the driver, (the ram rod shifter literally crushes your hand against the dash while shifting it into first or third a real genius installed that into the car #-o )

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I took a look underneath it today but couldn't get a good look at it, I read that if the car was originally equipped with a 350 then it shouldn't have a stick and should have an automatic. and if it was a factory 4 speed in the car it should have a saginaw but built in the Muncie factory ?? I could make out that it has the 3 bars/linkage on the drivers side of it but that's about it.

Is there a sure way to tell the difference between a 4 speed Saginaw, t10, super t10, muncie 21, and a muncie 22????? just by looking at the outside features of the transmission? I plan on jacking it up on some stands and getting another look at it. in the next couple of days. Couldn't find a clear answer on the internet thanks in advance - Shawn
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Re: determining which transmission my bud has

Post by LS6 Tommy » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:37 am

If it's stock, it's a Borg Warner Super T-10.

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Re: determining which transmission my bud has

Post by SEVNT 9 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:04 am

is there a way I can tell if it is a Borg Warner for sure?? any identification marks??
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I use to be "bu min v8"

'79 malibu classic, factory bucket/floorshift car: 355, vortec heads, Holley 670, Edelbrock RPM airgap, Comp extreme energy 268, Dynomax ceramic coated headers, 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust from Jegs, T56, 8.5 GN rear, 4.10 richmond gear, moser axles Monte ss booster & master.

fastest 1/4 mi = 13.211 @ 100.78, 1.761 60 Ft on street tires! (700-r4) 12'S OR BUST!

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Re: determining which transmission my bud has

Post by t5montecarlo » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:21 pm

If all 3 shift fork levers are in the side cover, it is a Saginaw.

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Re: determining which transmission my bud has

Post by LS6 Tommy » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:44 am

20k mile '80 Malibu, currently undergoing long term (aka no money) factory style install LS6 454, Cowl Induction, Legend LGT 700 5 speed. Full Global West suspension, 17" N90 wheels, 12" front/11" rear disc brakes, 9" 3.70 Auburn Pro posi.

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Re: determining which transmission my bud has

Post by SEVNT 9 » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:44 pm

Thank you Tommy exactly what I was looking for!! thank you I did several searches through google with no luck.....this is going into my favorites!! Thanks again!!
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I use to be "bu min v8"

'79 malibu classic, factory bucket/floorshift car: 355, vortec heads, Holley 670, Edelbrock RPM airgap, Comp extreme energy 268, Dynomax ceramic coated headers, 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust from Jegs, T56, 8.5 GN rear, 4.10 richmond gear, moser axles Monte ss booster & master.

fastest 1/4 mi = 13.211 @ 100.78, 1.761 60 Ft on street tires! (700-r4) 12'S OR BUST!

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Re: determining which transmission my bud has

Post by SEVNT 9 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:21 am

turns out he has 9 bolts in the cover plate, and the reverse is in the tail shaft....looks like a borg warner super t10. Thanks Tommy!!
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I use to be "bu min v8"

'79 malibu classic, factory bucket/floorshift car: 355, vortec heads, Holley 670, Edelbrock RPM airgap, Comp extreme energy 268, Dynomax ceramic coated headers, 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust from Jegs, T56, 8.5 GN rear, 4.10 richmond gear, moser axles Monte ss booster & master.

fastest 1/4 mi = 13.211 @ 100.78, 1.761 60 Ft on street tires! (700-r4) 12'S OR BUST!

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Re: determining which transmission my bud has

Post by LS6 Tommy » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:37 am

No problem!

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20k mile '80 Malibu, currently undergoing long term (aka no money) factory style install LS6 454, Cowl Induction, Legend LGT 700 5 speed. Full Global West suspension, 17" N90 wheels, 12" front/11" rear disc brakes, 9" 3.70 Auburn Pro posi.

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