BMR relocation brackets

LS6 Tommy

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BMR Sales said:
LS6 Tommy said:
BMR Sales said:
Hello, our brackets are cold formed steel and not welded. Here is a link to our site. If you have any questions please call me at the office.

http://www.bmrfabrication.com/G-Body.htm


Just out of curiosity, do you think the bolt on brackets will wrok on a 9" with stock style mounts?

Tommy

They will work but i would weld them if possible.


Thanks!

(BTW- you've never seen my welds... :oops: )

Tommy
 

malibulvr

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UMI Sales said:
I just wanted to throw this out their for you guys! That UMI Performance also offers a set of lower control arm relocation brackets. The relocation brackets eliminate wheel hop and increase your traction performance by allowing you to adjust your lower control arm more parallel with the surface. We offer two versions a weld on and a bolt on! Below is a link to show you what we have to offer!http://www.umiperformance.com/products.php?category_id=17If you have any other questions feel free to ask and I will be glad to help!ThanksBrad  cool.gif

Ok, I have a question about this. In your post it says that these brackets help to keep the lower control arm more parallel with the surface. Every set of these I see installed the lower control arm seems to be pointing towards the ground instead of parellel to the ground. I know on my car it is lowered a little and in stock location the lower control arms are very close to parellel to the ground. If I installed these brackets on my car, my lower control arms would be angled more downwards than parellel to the ground. I am just trying to understand if they drop the mounting point on the rear of lower control arm how does it make it more parellel to the ground, especially on a stock height car where the rear lower control arms are already pointing downwards to the rear end.

I just don't know if I need to use this type of set up or not. I have read in some of the threads that the relocation brackets work well in low HP applications, but I just don't know where I am in that. My set up is sbc 400-450+hp, 3800 stall, crazy built th350, 12-bolt 4:56 posi, full notch 325/50 drag radial, PST 1 1/8" rear sway bar, comp eng adj shocks all around. Car is stripped two lightweight front seats, 10point cage, alum dash, etc... I plan to stage on the 2-step module around 2500rpm, but will have to see from there.
 

Betcha618

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the brackets drop the rear of the lower control arm down wich changes your instant center more towards the rear of the car, which loads the rear tires on launch.
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I've heard that on cars with over 550h.p. it "hits" the rear tires too much and then they unload just after launch. I had a bu with a 400+hp 355, 350 trans, 12 bolt with 4.56 gears a lil under stock hight and the brackets worked perfect on my car. hope this helps.
 

malibulvr

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Thanks for the info. I do understand now how they work, but still am wondering how he says that useing the brackets will make the rear controll are more Parellel to the ground.

I have thought about useing these brackets, but I am worried about the car hitting the rear tires and then unloading downtrack. Main reason, my wife wants to also race the car and I don't want her to have a handfull to take care of halfway down the track. That's also why I went to the larger rear tire 325/50 DR instead of 26X11.50 ET Street so it might have a little better bite downtrack.
 

Betcha618

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malibulvr said:
Thanks for the info. I do understand now how they work, but still am wondering how he says that useing the brackets will make the rear controll are more Parellel to the ground.

I have thought about useing these brackets, but I am worried about the car hitting the rear tires and then unloading downtrack. Main reason, my wife wants to also race the car and I don't want her to have a handfull to take care of halfway down the track. That's also why I went to the larger rear tire 325/50 DR instead of 26X11.50 ET Street so it might have a little better bite downtrack.

Thats easy, get the bolt in brackets. I think they're like $35. try em out yourself (before you let her drive it. If they don't make the car go down the track better, unbolt them and take em off. With a couple hand tools and a jack you could pull em out at the track in no time.

as to the post above, they say if you lower your car alot you can use the brackets to get the control arms more level with the frame rails cause if you lower the car your LCA will be pointing down towards the ground, thats no good. But on a fairly stock hight car the will be pointing up with the brackets. which is not bad
(depending on HP)
 

BMR Sales

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Nice diagram Betcha618. The relocation brackets help with weight transfer and wheel hop. The further back the instant center point is the easier it is to lift the front of the car.
 

malibulvr

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10-4, thanks for the info and recommendations. hadn't really thought about the bolt in brackets, might try that.
 

Betcha618

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before when we were talking about welded brackets, we were talking about the brackets be cold rolled or 3 separate pieces welded together to make the bracket.
 

KEVINS

Amateur Racer
BMR Sales said:
The further back the instant center point is the easier it is to lift the front of the car.
I disagree 100%.
The farther out the IC is the easier it is as long as the AS values don't get real stupid/crazy. The IC point is the point where it lifts the body of the car.
Example.
Hold a 10ft long board horizontal to the ground and pointing away from you. You will have a hard time lifting the other end of the board up if your hand is 6" from your stomach. Now move your hand 6ft forward and it will be much eaiser to lift the end of the board.
Just like a longer ladder bar will have more leverage to lift the nose than a shorter one.

KS
 

BMR Sales

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Thats a good point but you can only move the instant center back so far with relocation brackets. In lifting the front you are also transfering weight towards the rear of the car which helps plant the tires. A car will 60' better with the instant center moved rearward. It is possible to go to far rearward with your instant center adjustment. Every car reacts different. Thats why we have several different holes to use in our brackets.
 

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