Rear disc

78 blu

Amateur Racer
Jan 6, 2006
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Rothschild WI
Is it possible to use a rear disc set up from an F body?
Meaning taking the set up off the F body housing
and mounting it to my G body housing.
If this can be done what kind of fabrication and parts swap
am i looking at
 
Check out my car domain site, the station wagon. I have pics of the f-body rear discs and what had to be modified.
 

JASHELL1562

Amateur Racer
Jul 12, 2005
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CLEVELAND , TN
CONVERSION

USE A 93-97 LT1 REAR BRAKE SET UP, I USED EVERY THING INCLUDIND THE LINES, THE MOUNTING BRACKET WILL NEED TO MACHINED SLIGHTLY ON EACH SIDE WHERE THE CALIPER BOLTS UP. I DID THIS ONVERSION ON MY ONW CAR , DIE GRINER AND AND DRILL, ONE TRIP TO THE MACHINE SHOP AND THE HARDWARE STORE AND THERE YOU GO.
 

Oldsminator

Weekend Racer
Aug 6, 2006
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Wroclaw Poland
alright guys, I get you all here.
But I have a question though.
When I put the 79 disc brake rear end under my 78 trans am( 78 has none) I noticed that I had to change the brake booster to.
Without changing the booster, it braked as if there was no vacume adjusted.
So don't you guys have this problem with the bu's to?
Don't you need to change boosters, master pumps or other goodies?

Greets Guy ans Peggy
 

dwkohout

Frequent Racer
Sep 25, 2004
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Albany,MN
LS1 rear brake swap. http://www.thirdgen.org/ls1reardisc 98 and newer 2wd blazer rear disks should work the same as the LS1. I have the blazer disks on the a-body rear in my 84.
 

MISFITmalibu63

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Feb 21, 2004
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The Sticks... Tewksbury MA
i had the setup from a 92 camaro w/ the 10 bolt rear (9 bolt rears have diff brake setups) there was too much fabbing for me to deal with, so i sold it deciding to wait to get disks on a 9" :D
 

LS6 Tommy

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May 15, 2004
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North Jersey
Oldsminator said:
alright guys, I get you all here.
But I have a question though.
When I put the 79 disc brake rear end under my 78 trans am( 78 has none) I noticed that I had to change the brake booster to.
Without changing the booster, it braked as if there was no vacume adjusted.
So don't you guys have this problem with the bu's to?
Don't you need to change boosters, master pumps or other goodies?

Greets Guy ans Peggy

The booster shouldn't make much difference if the master is right. You will need a Disc/Disc master.

Tommy
 
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Anonymous

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I hate to bring an old post back to the top, but I hate seeing information that doesn't make sense.

To address the original question, can an f-body rear disc setup be used on a G-body? Why not? From 82-92 the standard, typical F-body rear differential is the same tiny 10-bolt as the G-body. Some 85-89 F's had a Borg Warner 9-bolt, but the brakes were still the same they just used different caliper mounting plates. The earlier Delco-Moraine caliper rear discs aren't very desirable... When they work as designed they're fine, but they typically don't work as designed. The 89-92 PBR caliper system is much easier to work with and more likely to work properly.

A person would need the donor car's brakes from the caliper mounting brackets on out, and at least the proportioning valve from the donor and maybe the master cylinder. The booster shouldn't matter. Also the brake hardlines on the differential will be different and the F-body donor lines might not be the right length.

All the drum brake hardware would have to be removed, and the mounting flange on the housing cut for the disc brackets. The two existing lower drum backing mount holes will be reused and two new holes need to be drilled in the top corners of the mounting flange. The proportioning valve and maybe the master cylinder need to be changed to deliver the correct pressure variations front vs rear.

The 93-97 Fbody rear brakes are the same PBR setup, but have cast mounting brackets instead of stamped steel. They still function the same and would require the same parts. The 98-up LS1 system is quite a bit different and would require more work to adapt.

The difference in caliper mounting location from left to right only applies to the cast iron Delco-Moraine caliper system, the PBR's have both calipers on the rear side of the axle. If they need to be to the front side of the axle for clearance, theoretically a person should be able to put the left side mounting plate, on the right side of the axle housing and vice-versa.

The cast calipers on the F-body don't usually work as well as the stock drum brakes. Making the swap from the drums to cast caliper disc would be a cosmetic improvement only, unless new parts are used. Also the Delco calipers vs the PBR calipers use different master cylinders and proportioning valves. The later PBR systems use the same master as a disc/drum car with only a different prop valve.

Of course this is all free theoretical information. I know F-bodies inside out, and enough about G-bodies to be dangerous. Use this information at your own risk.
 
what he said. If you look at my cardomain site for the wagon you would see. Except I used caddy eldorado rear cilibers, and mounter them in the front, because the are clearance issues with the shock mount if you mount them in the rear. I also changed my booster becase there are different size snouts on the master cylinders. I used a later MCSS booster, and a 4WD caprice master, don't remeber what year though, and the prob valve from the eldorado. i figured this better fit my app cause the vehicle weights were similar.
 

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